Turbo Fact's ??

[Turismo]

Heres the deal:

I just sent my leaking blower to get re-sealed or whatever they do to it, and since I've also been having tranny troubles and am still under warranty the JRSC has been dismantled ( well 80% until tomorrow )and the car will go to the dealer in stock trim (driveline anyway) to get whatever went wrong in there fixed.

I am highly considering going turbo when I get car back and am wondering a few things:

1. What kit to get?? I'm thinking DragIII from the majority of posts I've read but opinions are welcome.

2. How hard is installation and is there any good sites that explain it a little better for a JRSC experienced turbo novice.

3. What are the hardest parts of the install?
I know the oil pan has to be tapped, is there anyone who sells one ready to go?

4. Will any components have to be removed that I might like to keep?
Like AC or PS, also what abvout the fans??
You get the idea.

5. What are things that dont come with the kit that "should" come with it, or that I should expect to buy to make it perfect?

I figure I really don't want to re-install this kit when I could take advantage of the extras I already have ( PMS, J&S, 380cc Injectors, Cartech )and have a well tuned ass rompin turbo setup with no parasitic drag, heat buildup, replacement of a highly engineered intake manifold with a peice that fits in a certain space, etc.

The advantages seem to go on.

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'96 JRSC GSR Sedan (Black Currant Pearl)
AEM CAI / PMS / J&S Safeguard / Venom 380cc Injectors / Vortech Fuel Rail / Autometer Boost/Vac, Fuel Pressure (Dual Pillar), EGT (in glovebox for now) / Walbro HO Pump / Moroso "Catchcan" / Billstien Shocks / H&R OE Sports / Skunk2 Rear Swaybar / 3pc DC Sports Tie Bars / Bridgestone RE-71 Potenzas

[Marc]

The Drag 3 kit is nice and a lot of people have had great success with it. I also like the Greddy kit. The fitment of the Greddy is a bit better. The Drag is more of a track kit (higher HP) while the Greddy is more of a street kit (CARB legal & less lag).

The toughest part on a turbo installation is the pan. Buy a stock pan from a junkyard($100) and have it tapped or buy a Moroso oil pan which comes pretapped($400). Some of the piping can be tricky if it doesn't fit properly. The bumper also needs to be removed to install the intercooler but that isn't too hard. It helps if you have a friend help you.

Some kits such as the Drag may require bending AC lines and shaving the block due to the large turbo. This isn't necessary with the Greddy kit.

The Drag kit comes with a Deltagate wastegate which everyone seems to hate. Most replace it with a TiAL or HKS wastegate.

HTH

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Marc
1997 Civic EX
The supercharger is gone. Get ready for the turbo.
Want to know why I got rid of the JRSC? http://crx.honda-perf.org/horror/jrsc.html

[ArturboGSR98]

Check this out:

http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/Forum40/HTML/005493.html

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[This message has been edited by ArturboGSR98 (edited January 26, 2001).]

[FIxALPHA]

Turismo,

I agree with Marc, except with the oil pan. You can go to a local welder and weld in the bung for you. Usually on the drag kit (I know it came in the rev-hard kit) it came with a pipe to weld on the oil pan.

Me and my friend recently installed a rev-hard kit for an si(00). I thought (this is my opinion) one of the hardest part was shaving the block. Since it was an aluminum block we could not actually shave it because the material would stick to the bit, so what we did was drill then fit, drill then fit, you get the idea.
With the rev-hard kit turbo, we had to shave(drill) alot, Im now sure about the drag kit.


Paul



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12.42@112
Turbocharged Stock B18C1

www.alpharacing.com

[FIxALPHA]

What I meant to say was, Im not sure about the fitment of the drag kit.

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12.42@112
Turbocharged Stock B18C1

www.alpharacing.com

[falconGSR]

Went to jotech in Dallas last nite. This is what they recommended to me for a 'complete' turbo setup.

Rev hard kit
Apexi VAFC
RC 310 injectors
2.6mm head gasket
MSD6al ignition
blaster 3 coil
magnecor 8.5mm wires
map bypass sensor
boost gauge

all this plus install and dyno tuning: $7500 bucks

ack!

i am still considering JRSC + endyn work...

[VTECPWR]

No offense to Jo-Tech, but what the hell are they smoking, or do they just not want you as a customer? 7,500 F***ing dollars for a turbo kit with some extra goodies, install and tune? Damn, for that buy a Drag III, get some extra's, build the internals, and tune. You will come out cheaper, and a hell of a lot faster.

[falconGSR]

I certainly agree with you VTECPWR.

I am doing whatever I do myself, so...

A freind of mine thought that since they had the fastest unibody civic in the country had something to do with them charging 3k more...

Anyhow, I just went there as a point of reference.

[ArturboGSR98]

Falcon, I have a Rev-hard turbo kit on my 98 GSR.
I live in Ft. Worth and I'd be happy to help you put on the turbo kit for free. Just come up with the turbo kit and we can do the rest.
If you want an easy install, I think the Drag 3 would be easier for us to install.

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